We have been looking around the sites and the spanking scenes on offer at the moment and are struck by the lack of variety and the distance there seems to be between the what the film makers present to us and what we do in our own spanking life and scene, OK we all love the school girl film and the naughty secretary; well that’s always a good standby. Why can’t we have some thought put into the scenarios though, it must be pretty damn boring for the girls and the film makers themselves to be always enacting the same few lines and scenes.
Why not look at a few of the scenarios used by real people. A feature of lots of peoples spanking play is the ‘roll play’ and the different scenarios this presents. This is where you can have some serious fun or some serious SERIOUS fun. Maybe you like a laugh with your spanking, OK this can be the way to inject a smile and to keep the session light, nice when meeting someone for the first time or trying out your little kink on someone who may or may not share your views on spanking or being the subject of a spanking. Better through a nice roll play situation than throwing them over the arm of a chair and beating their bum till they say either ‘wow that was great’ or call for the cops and have you carted off to the pokey.
There are some things we don’t want to see on film or depicted on web sites. You have to draw a line in the roll play sand I think, the rape fantasy and the kidnap with violence scene, which I have seen discussed on some of the blogs, is where I draw my line. Some sad person out there might get the idea that this is acceptable behaviour and can be applied to all the ladies he may meet, no better left alone I think.
OK someone is going to say what about the schoolgirl scene, mature ladies dressed as schoolgirls? Well that’s just it, they are mature ladies and they do dress up, they do not say they are young girls and available, they are play acting and make it clear that they are play acting. With the rape and kidnap fantasy the whole object is that it is supposed to be a real as possible and to look as uncontrived as possible.
When it comes to story lines and costumes then some of the Eastern European sites do have a big lead over the British produced material, I am not sure I like everything I see from these companies but I do like the fact that they put thought into costumes and storylines and indeed locations. It is a fact that they are able through legislation in different countries to go to those places where it is not possible for the British producer to go. Our thought, moral and behaviour police will be after you before the first DVD has stopped spinning, when will the British public at large say enough is enough get out of my bedroom, playroom, and dungeon?
No we have to ask that you Mr. Producer find somewhere in the middle and come up with good stories and locations. We have the very best spanking models in the world in the UK and I for one want to see them in good stories, acting out good lines and making me believe the whole thing is happening just for me and not to some tired and wilting formula. Do I have an example of the sort of thing, yes I do and it comes from one of the newer web sites. I have borrowed these clips from Spanking Sarah and it shows just one part of the full story. It is based around a girl who goes out on the streets, has sex with a stranger for money, goes to a religious looking disciplinarian for forgiveness and finds that the way to absolution is long and painful. The story has the locations, the costumes the application of thought in the production and editing and all these bring out the best in the excellent actors. More of the same PLEASE.
Well what Roue films have been up to lately, by delving into more elaborate period pieces, seems very adventurous to me and an evolution from the normal formula (try copying and pasting this http://pandorablake.blogspot.com/2009/10/7am-in-1911.html ). Other companies too, seem to be experimenting with more off beat formulas. I think that it would be unreasonable to expect a company to totally step away from the old formulas, whilst they are trying new things and putting themselves at some financial risk doing so, they must have the old proven material to fall back on if the experimental stuff proves not to be to the punters tastes, a way of reducing risks if you will.
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“There are some things we don’t want to see on film or depicted on web sites. You have to draw a line in the roll play [sic] sand I think, the rape fantasy and the kidnap with violence scene, which I have seen discussed on some of the blogs, is where I draw my line.”
I am not a huge fan of rape or kidnapping scenes myself, but I will defend the right of producers to film such material, and I will defend the right of viewers to see such material if this is what they desire. As long as 1) all the participants are consenting adults, and as long as 2) no one is permanently harmed during the production, I have no objections to such a film being made. I believe that adults should be free do decide for themselves what type of films they want to produce or see, provided that these two conditions are met. I may not like certain types of films myself (and fortunately, no one forces me to watch them!), but this doesn’t mean that such films shouldn’t be produced.
When you call for censorship of certain types of films purely as a matter of personal taste, which is what you are doing here (“There are some things we don’t want to see on film or depicted on web sites”), you open up the door for the self-appointed “moral guardians” who want to ban ALL kinky erotica. I don’t think that this is a position a spanking blogger would like to take. In other words, if you want to see the spanking films you like, you also have to live with the fact that some films exist which you don’t like.
“Some sad person out there might get the idea that this is acceptable behaviour and can be applied to all the ladies he may meet.”
In decades of research, it has never been demonstrated in a serious scientific study that watching porn (or watching violent films, or playing violent computer games…) encourages illegal or violent actions. That claim is an excuse floated by prudes and scaremongers, and frankly, I am disappointed to see it repeated on a kinky blog like this.
Of course, there are “some people” out there who get strange ideas from… well, anything, really! Some people have cited the Bible or the Koran as a justification to kill thousands of their fellow human beings. Some have claimed to communicate directly with God. But we don’t ban religion and religious texts as a result of that, do we? Because there is no significant statistical correlation between people who read the Bible or the Koran and people who become religious terrorists. No such correlation exists in the case of kinky porn and violence / sexual assault, either.
If you truly want to censor certain spanking films because “some sad person out there might get the idea that this is acceptable behaviour”, then again, you would have to call for a ban on ALL spanking films for your position to be consistent. As it is, your position of “I want to see one thing, but not the other” is self-contradictory.
“OK someone is going to say what about the schoolgirl scene, mature ladies dressed as schoolgirls? Well that’s just it, they are mature ladies and they do dress up, they do not say they are young girls and available, they are play acting and make it clear that they are play acting. With the rape and kidnap fantasy the whole object is that it is supposed to be a real as possible and to look as uncontrived as possible.”
The self-contradiction continues. You claim that mature ladies pretending to be schoolgirls is okay, but consenting ladies pretending to be victims of rape or kidnapping is not okay. This seems to be a view based purely on your personal taste in films, not on any kind of rational or moral argument. I think we can all agree that beating a schoolgirl – a minor! – against her will is an immoral action, just like rape or kidnapping. So why should it be okay to depict one in a work of fiction, but not the other? Where’s the difference? At the end of the day, what matters is that a film is made by consenting adults, and that no one is permanently harmed during the production.
You recognise this flaw in your position, so you argue that schoolgirl scenes are fine because “they are play acting and make it clear that they are play acting”, while with the rape and kidnap fantasy “the whole object is that it is supposed to be a [sic] real as possible and to look as uncontrived as possible”. But frankly, this is nonsense. Whether a scene looks real or obviously goofy depends on the producer, doesn’t it? I’ve seen quite a few schoolgirl spanking films that were made to look very real and uncontrived. At the same time, most of the rape or kidnapping scenarios I’ve seen looked utterly and obviously unrealistic. “Somewhere in a secret basement kidnapped girls are held behind bars like animals. These girls are tortured by the mistress of the mansion!” That kind of stuff. These spanking films resemble 1970’s style exploiation flicks much more than they resemble real life. I’d argue that, generally speaking, they are a lot more contrived than the average schoolgirl scenario.
And besides, why does it make a moral difference if the scenes in a film LOOK real or not? It doesn’t. All that matters is that the rape and kidnapping ISN’T real. Just like the schoolgirl scenes you like, which aren’t real, either, but acted out by consenting adults.
“When it comes to story lines and costumes then some of the Eastern European sites do have a big lead over the British produced material.”
Indeed, which is why several UK-based spanking models like Niki Flynn, Adele Haze, Pandora Blake and Amy Hunter have worked with them. Others are considering it.
“It is a fact that they [the Eastern Europeans] are able through legislation in different countries to go to those places where it is not possible for the British producer to go. Our thought, moral and behaviour police will be after you before the first DVD has stopped spinning, when will the British public at large say enough is enough get out of my bedroom, playroom, and dungeon?”
If you want the thought police to get out of your bedroom, playroom and dungeon, then it is probably not a good idea to repeat their own arguments, which is what you are effectively doing here.
You have my sympathies when it comes to the restrictive legal situation in the UK, which makes life for kinky people even more difficult than elsewhere. But if you are (rightfully) unhappy with that, you should rant against your scaremongering media and politicians – not against porn producers who live in countries where no such restrictive legislation exists. The situation in the UK certainly isn’t the porn producers’ fault!
“No we have to ask that you Mr. Producer find somewhere in the middle and come up with good stories and locations. […] Do I have an example of the sort of thing, yes I do and it comes from one of the newer web sites. I have borrowed these clips from Spanking Sarah […]”
You are free to prefer Spanking Sarah over the Eastern European producers, just like I am free to prefer it the other way around. That is all a matter of personal taste. But again, our differences in personal taste don’t mean that either kind of film shouldn’t be produced.
Producers are going to produce what people want to see. The fact that Eastern European companies like Mood, Lupus and Pain4Fem are some of the largest and most commercially successful in the business proves that there are many, many people out there who want to see their type of film – even if you don’t.
I’m usually a fan of The Spanking News, but I was disappointed by this convoluted and ill-conceived opinion piece.